Wow. Who would have guessed that Women’s Equality Day could cause such controversy?
Earlier today, I commented on a post over at another blog.
My comment was partially a response to a previous comment left by a “gentleman” (note the sarcasm) named Bain (which, at the time, I misread as Brian.) Here’s Bain‘s comment:
You got stuck on the sex I think. And last I checked, sexual pleasure wasn’t forbidden before feminism. Also, I can’t understand why the damn equalization of women is spoken on and on by everyone. I mean, the places where people were treated like less of a person were only a FEW. Truth be told, they were only in the major, most “civilized” countries, while the “barbarians” from the deep east always treated their women good.
(Note: Actually, I think Bain probably meant to say “treated their women well” but he ran into some difficulty connected to the fact that he’s a moron.)
Actually, without mumbling nonsense about how all women got freed on this day so many years ago, perhaps one should focus on what the fuck was wrong in those countries in the first place if there was equalization fights starting over there.
If you feel lucky to be a woman only TODAY, something is wrong with you.
Also, some countries’ traditions about daughters and them being married for a man from the decision of the father are still in order… And I gotta say, that is not so bad. Usually parents are able to recognize and would choose the best possible companion for their own, because after all, as much as a random male can care for their daughter, they would always want her best. Usually, most the romantic/stupid stories you hear about a girl moaning about how she loves someone else, not the one of choosing from her parents, is because she DIDN’T get to choose, not because the choice is bad. Which, in my opinion, is idiotic. Really.
Equalization? Fighting for it? Well, hopefully it was worth it. Hopefully you are certain that the women from the 21st and late 20th century were better than those from centuries before that. I know I am not, but meh, that probably goes for all human beings…
Excuso.
Anyway, my response:
Wow, loved this post. I’d add to your list of freedoms that I have the freedom to read the words of other women who aren’t ashamed of who we are.
As for Brian, who left the comment regarding how sexual pleasure existed before feminism — Brian, get a clue. Sexual pleasure existed for you but women were supposed to view it as being a part of their duty and nothing else. I’m sorry that men like you are so threatened by the idea that women might actually enjoy sex as well.
Now, I’m going to admit that I did get the guy’s name wrong. I saw Bain but I read Brian probably because I wasn’t really paying as much attention to the guy’s name as I was to what he had said.
Well, Brian — or excuse me, Bain — paid attention to what I had written as well because he replied to me:
Hey, you, the female – I don’t mind pleasure at all, and I am pretty sure that man actually paid to see it long before equalisation. Also, Brian you will call the unlucky man who gets to your playmate. I am Bain. And that is probably obvious by my nickname, so you sound just insulting and I won’t bother arguing with low-intelligent primate that needs to have someone that fought for her rights 60 years ago to feel free.
Also, only in SOME cultures women weren’t allowed to express their pleasure. I am pretty darn sure that you weren’t there, and the same way you can say that my sources are fake, I could say the same for yours.
Also, Lisa Marie Bowman, you are a lesser being only if you allow yourself to be so. I am damn sure that if you had the guts inside to be what you want to be, you would have been.
(Quick note here: I am exactly what I want to be and I always will be.)
I am certain one more thing – women and men are different, and they always were. Equalisation is nothing good, because saying that sexes are the same is a complete lie. There is no building, anywhere, built by a woman. Designed, maybe. But a woman builder? No, that may ruin their nail polish!
Maybe going out of topic, but it just needs to be said. You know why man and women would never be the same, equal, or anything like that? Because the men don’t make a lot of noise for nothing. You got your rights. Keeping all and all discussing how you get different treatment because YOU ARE different being than the men is what bugs me. Feminish shouldn’t be alive when there is nothing else for it to fight for. Something is messed up with that.
Now, Bain — as is evident by his site here — probably has his own issues to deal with. See, we’ve all got issues. His issues are apparently with women. My issues are with individuals.
Anyway, Bain — sorry I got your name wrong. I’m sorry that I don’t want to “ruin my nail polish” by building another ugly tenement in whatever country it is that you come from. And mostly, I’m sorry that you apparently are going to live the rest of your life in bitter ignorance.
Seriously, that must be an awful way to live.
Lisa Marie Bowman
Where the Nightbirds Settle 
i tried to read this but all i kept seeing was bain or brian. i am so tired from tearing down a shead i have no clue what i saw here. bain and brain and something but all i figured out is braina bain seems like a cooksucker. Bain brain brian or whatever your name is, go to my site http://sites.google.com/site/lamaleca/ and donate $100 to it. I will donate half to a women’s organization . ok i need a nap so when i read again i will be able to think ,, so sleepy, remember bain if you donate then u suck testicles
Nice try, Ron, but I doubt he’ll donate. He appears to be more of a “If you want money, go out and sell child ponography featuring my little cousin Sasha” type person.
I hate these douchebags. I actually got half way through writing out a long response to his original reply but decided there was probably no getting through to him, and thus closed out the window. I kinda feel bad for him, he does seem bitter and resentful. Wonder what fucked him up as a child. <.< Oddly enough, the posts on my blog that receive they most nasty comments are the ones about feminism. This post for example really seems to piss people off: http://godlesspaladin.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/sexism-in-games/
I don't get why so many of guys get this pissed off over these issues. They seem to be even more irate when they realize I'm a guy and I'm saying these things. Somehow that suddenly makes me a traitor, gay, a wimp, or a whole host of other things that simply serve to highlight their insecurities…
Insecurity is the best way to describe it. As long as they can fool themselves into thinking every other guy (or caucasion or heterosexual or whatever) out there agrees with them, than they don’t ever have to stop and ask themselves just what exactly it is that they’re so angry about.
Just for the record. I am not insecure. Actually, I say all this stuff because I have more confidence than some of you, dear broken souls. Truth be told, there is something I hate most in this world, and that is a lot of noise for nothing. I could imagine making a post if you got beaten, or your rights got messed up and someone refused to agree with them… But what is with the dumbass feminism WHEN IT ISN’T needed? It had its role. It did what it was supposed to. What is with all of you still discussing it when it isn’t needed?
Two more things. First, from what do you judge that my problems are with women, you can’t even read my language.
Second, I saw your pictures. For a feminist, you are quite pretty, and your boobs aren’t that bad at all. Wanna be a partner of my cousin Sasha in her next movie?
Also, making butthurt publication because random post on the internet, that is actually TRUE, shows why you and some like you are the reason that your “kind” is called “the weaker sex”.
Hi, Brian. How’s it going?
First off, why do you care what we discuss? To me, a confident man wouldn’t care. Oh, and I’m glad you could imagine “making a post if you got beaten.” I haven’t gotten around to writing that post yet but I’m glad that when I’m ready to talk about, I’ll have your permission.
As far as reading your language is concerned, I can read the comments that you’ve made in English and that’s what I base my judgment on. What I do notice is that you seem to have a lot of anger about something that you claim isn’t important. Why so angry, Brian?
Thank you, I happen to like my boobs as well. As far as doing a movie with your cousin, what’s in it for me?
I’m still trying to figure out what the fuck it is you’re trying to say in the last sentence. If I ever do, I’ll respond to it.
Anyway, I do want to clear up one huge misconception you seem to have. I do not hate men, I have never said that men and women are exactly alike, and just because I’m a feminist, that does not make me anti-male. It does make me anti-dumbass and maybe that’s where we’re having trouble.
Love,
Lisa Marie
Oh, well, I have THE SAME problem! Exact same thing! I do not hate women, but I do hate dumbasses of any sex out there, and while some of my kind would never think that your kind can produce mentally crippled individuals, I dare disagree! For that, we are equal, we are the same – dumbasses exist in both sexes, and that’s what I dislike! But turns out you dislike the same thing, oh my! We are so alike! What are we no, how do you call it America, BFF-s?
I have one publication in english, last I checked, and some arguments with teo. And you judge by that? Well, smart of you, you know it all now!
For the record, you got it wrong. My life doesn’t spin around my relation with women, nor around my relation with anything, but around much more important things. You may be surprised, but there ARE more important things that interaction between the different sexes.
Why do I still care? I don’t, but I am a polite person, believe it or not. When I get invited into a discussion, I stay in it until it ends from the point of view of both of ’em people who argue in it.
Also, judging by the comments, some during deep night and some now, you didn’t sleep last night. Sure you don’t want me to leave you to get some rest, so you are less cranky and we can finish this like adults?
Oh, and what you get for working with my cousin Sasha? You get to donate the money from the porn films to organisations that defend the rights of women, of course! Because as we all know, currently, women have slave status, no right of personal opinion, no rights at all and need anyone who can to donate money in order to improve their standard of life. Women are in such a bad position right now, what is wrong with you men, why aren’t you saving them by producing porn??? That’s the truth. In order to save women, we need to produce more porn.
That, ladies and gentlemen, is how life works.
Dear Brian.
You certainly do go on and on and on for someone who doesn’t care.
Love,
Lisa Marie 😉
Oh look, it followed you home, want to keep it and feed it treats?
Well, according to Brian, we’re now BFFs so I guess I’ll have to keep it fed. I’m not much of a cook (must be all that feminism corrupting my head) but I’ll do my best. 🙂
I hear the trick to cooking is to be barefoot and pregnant at the same time. :p
Yeah, and to be ready to always sexually satisfy your husband…
Also, how come you are the one telling me that I am going on and on for someone who doesn’t care when YOU are the one that made publication based on MY post? I am utterly confused.
Well, Brian, I imagine you should be used to being utterly confused at this point in your life.
Plus, this really isn’t based on your post. This is based on your comments to me after I commented on your comments regarding a post that neither one of us wrote. So, try to connect-the-dots here, my original post was about something you said to me and my opinion of it. You’re the one who keep coming back here and continuing this boring little argument of ours.
As for being ready to always sexually satisfy my husband — well, I would hope that he would always be ready to sexually satisfy me as well.
Again, you seem to be a very bitter and angry person. Or are you just cranky? Maybe you need to get some sleep too. Or maybe just a life.
Oh, Lisa, you know Bain has a life. He builds shit because we’re too worried about ruining our finger nail polish to do it ourselves. lol. Bain, you’re such a fucking stereotype. Thank you for making me laugh.
Erin, that is my BFF you’re talking about. 🙂
Maybe we should have a contest. Predict Brian’s next response. Will he respond with hurt feelings, personal insults, or will he pretend like he just doesn’t care? Its like we’ve got our own little lab rat to experiment on here.
*lights up a cigarette*
*laughs*
Well, I’d go with “pretend he doesn’t care”. Truth be told, silly little girls like you are the reason feminists get a bad name. The lack of confidence and the mind of slave – bad combination. Truth be told, if you lived 90 years ago you would be too scared to raise your voice up. But now, you are spoiled by the victories of others.
Not going to bother writing anymore as it is diffilcult for me being an illiterate to continually convince the rent boys down the hall to come over here and type for me. Live in stupidity. I can try to fix it, try and try but… Low quality people are low quality. Sorry, doubt anyone can help you. I am deeply in love with you but now you will never know the pleasure of big bad bain.
Deep regrets, B. H.
LMFAO.
Oh my God, Brian — I had no idea that you were some sort of comic book super villian. Lights up a cigarette and laughs indeed.
Lack of confidence? Uhmm…you’re the one who is giving up. You’re the one who is being a — how do you say in Man World? — pussy about it.
Mind of a slave? Remember this — not all slaves were docile. Some chopped their “masters” into little pieces.
Brian, you haven’t tried to fix anything. All you’ve tried to do is insult and degrade and “put women in their place.” However, unlike you, I do not assume that you are a represenative of all members of your gender. I just think you’re a repressed idiot who probably has tried to turn his own personal hangups into a philosophy of life. (Yes, I have edited my comment here. Originally, I said that Brian was probably a child molestor but that’s not something to suggest on just a whim. Though he probably is.)
Brian, the reason you’re not going to bother writing anymore is because you’re a — all togther now — Loser. 🙂
And remember, this is the Internet. What that mean is that she who gets the last word wins. And this is my blog. And what that means is that, in the end, I always get the last word.
Go live in your own neurotic fantasy world, Brian.
Bain, the only person living in stupidity is you. A smart person would have stopped bothering to write a long time ago.
And you never did answer my sister’s question. Why so angry?
Unfortunately, men like Bain still exist. All we can really do is hold our heads high and treat other women well. Keep writing.
P.S. Personally, I take all of the hate speech as a compliment. It means people are thinking when you can get under their skin like that…although, some people *ahem* are simply lost causes.